CMC - Criminal Mastermind Challenge [A$AP]

Steve Phatvibe

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Hello VCCM!

I opened this thread for all vicegamrs to be conspiratorial about the CMC. Or to put it straight from the start :

This happens to be a rockhard plan on how to take down 'the 10-Mil-Run'.

Both your critics and tipps on suggested tactics will be very much appreciated.
Once we'll have exercised and maybe even done it once or twice, it should be possible to go for the elite chellenges, too. [but that's gonna be another story. . . stayin alive for 26 missions is the much more important cause to start with, I reckon.]


. . . because first, second and third goes : THE PLAN aka The Choreography ;)

Which is much more important than comm. via headset [in the meaning of spoken words in english language] during the job - communication will be very rudimentary and most probably be easy to pick up from the following explanations. As much I usually enjoy speakin to my fellow VCCMs. . . this whole thing shouldn't happen in a chit-chatty mood anyway, so no worries about how fluent you're spoken english might be [or not]. . . this is all about enjoyin some decent missions play. . . and how to learn the sort-of choreography to get the job done . . . with both the pleasure of ingame spoils and a good, non-exhausting time.


Let's get started. . . I'll be constantly updating this post till our "masterplan" is complete. . . and proven. Please let flow your thoughts and impressions to this thread, too.



THE PLAN aka The Choreography


Before the CMC :

- play all the heists and setup missions [with your fellow VCCMs], so you really know what this plan's about.

- GTAO character should be above lvl 100 and fully exercised.

- you need to be both able and willing to play GTAO for a couple of hours, focussed, yet still being able to have fun, keeping calm.

- you should be 'warm' with the game; give it a few sessions, especially if you're not on with GTAO regularly at the moment.

- you need to be very capeable of filling up both life and armor via the inventory menu and you must know that you best eat snacks while in cover or in a vehicle.

- save outfit with bulletproof helmet and heavy combat vest; heist leader should enable saved outfits via game setups

During CMC :

- 'be boring'. . . meaning ALWAYS GO FOR THE SAVE PLAY. . . take cover a lot. . . don't be tight-fisted about snacks, armor and ammunition. . . all the SHOPPING will be worth the ways. . . and the time.
Shoot your opponents, don't waste money on explosives. It's dangerous anyway. [of course not attack helis. . . those you snipe or blow up as fast as you can from a safe and stand-still position]

- all above remain being ready for frustrating moments. . . because yet there's no guarantee it won't go wrong or a bug strikes. . . with the very last mission or heist f.e.!? STILL you'll have made MORE MONEY tryin on 'the big gain' . . . just try again.
And. . . it just says 'don't loose a life'. . . you're still allowed to hit restart for any other form of failed attempt.

- use you're Kurumas/Insurgents mostly, always shoot as many NPC as possible while just sitting in the car.
In a chase rather duck, yet remain ready to re-new your armor and eat snacks than being a hero. [VCCM got some hell-of-a-driver drivers. . . trust them.]

- sometimes [like when on a motorbike], being quick combined with 'eating armor' is much more effective then trying to fight back

- ALWAYS STAY FOCUSSED ON YOUR CURRENT MISSION. IT'S EASY! AS LONG YOU DON'T GET YOURSELF DISTRACTED OVER 'THE BIG THOUGHT'. . . or if there's dirt under your fingernail.
One-by-One is the way to take this down. There's plenty of time for chit-chattin between setup missions or on some of those long car rides across the map.


HAVE FUN! Good luck!!! :)

. . . find tipps on all 26 missions further below in this thread - AND GET THAT MONEY :p
 
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Steve Phatvibe

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interests from PS4 players, so far [availability in brackets/all times in EST] :

@Steve Phatvibe - [3:00pm to roughly 10:00pm, perhaps later; most days of the week, till january]
. . . one of my friends, applyin' to VCCM soon [same times roughly]
@Bloobug - [6:00pm to max. 10:00pm, rather earlier than later]
@Vikoon
@maxgregor

If your name's not here yet, please drop a post to this thread and I'm happy to list you here - or contact your platform hierarchy to create a 'gathering post' for specific platform to team up.

Please let me know if you like to train for the 10-Mil-Run and what are the times you'll be free for this :)
 
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Bloobug

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Normally i'm avaiable 6 pm EST - 9 or 10 pm (6am - 10am my indonesian time)...earlier can be arrange but unlikely lately...
Mostly im online all over the place in a day...each time i can take a brake from baking i usually online...
Well oiled machine for Pasific Standart...the rest definatly need practise...
 
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Steve Phatvibe

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well, that fits with me and KD [my friend who will be joining VCCM this week] - though I'm afraid, Vikoon could use some later times. Guess we'll see. . . ;-)
I'm up for runnin all setups and heists a couple of times anyway - so any team that would like me to help out on their run is welcome to hit me up.

Yesterday, KD and I went on some practice with HLR and Series A - and recieved skilled help from @Magic_bean and @vncnt5150.
[I found on this forums Bean already passed CMC - am I right? What about Vincent though??]

Tomorrow I'll be filling up 'the choreography' with info on all the missions and heists yet still missing. . . also I'll update some of the passages in the descriptions already written ;-)

And then let's start a practice run. Or two. Or three :p I'm 100% sure we can do it. . . though I'm not expecting it to happen on the first run
 

maxgregor

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I'm pretty confident with the Prison Break and the Humane Labs heists. I have played both many times and more or less know the tricks.
I think the Bus Setup on the first one and Delivering the EMP on the second one are simple but really tricky.
Also, I'm aware of the main tactics for a CMC run: be patient, be very patient, solid and clear strategy for everybody, lots of snacks and armors, no heros.

I should train Series A and Pacific Standard before any chance of a CMC run.
 

Merc1138

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I'm pretty confident with the Prison Break and the Humane Labs heists. I have played both many times and more or less know the tricks.
I think the Bus Setup on the first one and Delivering the EMP on the second one are simple but really tricky.
Also, I'm aware of the main tactics for a CMC run: be patient, be very patient, solid and clear strategy for everybody, lots of snacks and armors, no heros.

I should train Series A and Pacific Standard before any chance of a CMC run.
Actually, delivering the EMP isn't a big deal. Reason being is that getting detected and failing the mission doesn't reset your criminal mastermind progress(same with blowing up the convoy truck, or anything else that can cause a mission failure as long as you don't die. Not dying being the important part).
 

Steve Phatvibe

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The Fleeca Job
- just get through with it, to be honest ;-)

[ if you want to take down the elite challenge time : a good, mostly clean car run and a neat driller/hacker are the ingredients]



The Prison Break - Setups
PLANE : just go for it, kill all NPCs before entering the plane. fly home and land safely
BUS : shoot the driver and take care of the escort vehicle, too. heist crew must take down the heli asap.
Then just drive/escort the bus to any a mid size mountain; cops won't pursue [for long].
STATION : Team 1 is to carefully get a cop car; dial 911 and steal the ride - or 'carefully' shoot peds and cops, steal a car, then loose cops quickly by driving into a subway tunnel or else.
Team 2 should enter the boat via the first container crane, shoot the NPCs guarding the box containing Rashkovski's car. Next either one of you parachutes onto the ship and shoots the container open. Then a cutscene will spawn you in the car, back together. Be very quick to open your chute, be cautious climbing over the rail when starting your basejump.
WET WORK : Team 1 just needs to bring down R.'s former partner, by any means necessary.
Team 2 kill the two people exiting the black Schafter. Then take their Kuruma to pick up the document. Be careful parking the car right next to the pickup item. Use your Kuruma to cover the pick up situation from the many bullets.


The Prison Break - HEIST

- get your best shooters to take roles of prisoner and officer
- Officer : DROP one or more BIG GUNS FOR THE PRISONER TO PICK UP
- Prisoner : collect as many ammo from the dead guards as possible
- once in the armored truck with Dr. R, DON'T FIRE ON COPS; JUST DRIVE TO THE PLANE
- Pilot : WAIT at LSIA till the counter is down to 2:30, or circle the city till down to 1:30
- don't run from the jets, 'chase' them. GET BEHIND THE JET AND STAY THERE
- gain altitude quickly, after picking up the crew from Sandy Shores Airfield
- Demolition : try to be both quick and effective; CLEAN AIRFIELD AND SKIES FROM COPS B4 AND DURING PICK-UP situation
- EVERYONE BE CAREFUL LANDING ON THE BEACH before getting your lift back to the city

[if you want to take down the elite challenge time : badass pilots and shottas are needed, just storming through the prison; on top a quite different approach, also frustrating training seshs - 'cuz DEMOLITION mustn't assist the pilot, but fire rockets into the prison. without triggering the prison's defensive rocket system. . . ]


Human Labs Raid -Setups
KEY CODES : all remain shooting from cover as long as possible. drive away in pairs and take the Zions if possible.
INSURGENTS : go at 'em with your Kurumas. get your best man on that one Insurgent's cannon. Then stay together while driving home while being prepared to 'eat armor' constantly.
EMP : don't get impressed by the kool mission, take cover a lot, carefully clear hangar and flight deck from NPCs.
Be careful in the following dogfights over the Hydra. To minimize risks only the Hydra and it's [skilled] pilot should land at Sandy Shores. Careful.
VALKYRIE : Kurumas/Insurgents. Though a buzzard needs to be taken down seperately by a skilled 'lone wolf' while entering the compound.
Once you' got the Valkyrie, just hover onto the roof of the big Merrywhether docks and take down all incoming helis easily.
DELIVER EMP : when starting to shoot people - be quick and effective. communicate with your crew mates over the certain strategy. You can retry this mission as much as you need. Just don't die.

Human Labs Raid - HEIST

- pilot needs to think for the gunner, too. Always level the chopper a bit above the aproaching targets, because the gun is mounted about six feet lower than the horizon the pilot's looking at. Stick the nose of your heli to either left or right a bit.
- ground team remember to be careful making your way through the labs.
- when putting on breathing apparatus DOUBLE CHECK.

[trying on the elite challenge could mean three people goin in, RUNNING through the facility, one going straight through and swiming to the beach early. Pilot 'parking' the Valkyrie on the beach and giving hell to the attackers all by himself]


Series A - Setups
COKE : try to land the helicopter on the yacht's roof, then clear the decks. Boat crew be careful when entering the yacht.
The two police helicopters need to be taken down, asap [they're quite nasty, be extra careful]
Take the Seasharks and drive into the tunnel nearby to evade your wanted level quickly.
TRASH TRUCK : always back the truck up, close to the trash bags. Operators should help out on killing attackers.
Be ready to refill armor&health on the way to the drop off, after the last pick up. because you will be ambushed.
BIKES : kill the bikers without alerting them. Get out the vans again and kill the first wave of attackers. then bring 'em in safely.
WEED : best man on the cannon [if possible], then just try to take out as many and to assist best you can. It's more for the truck drivers to stay alive and keep pushin..
METH : Kurumas. Take the truck along the lake, not on the roads too much.

Series A - HEIST :

- stay alive.
- don't let attackers block you off on the highway, avoid jammin them to your windshield
- be quick to take down the helis and the bikes
- good luck

[no intention on the elite challenge yet]


Pacific Standart - Setups
VANS : vans are always on the same routes.
SIGNAL : take all preparations. . . get a helicopter [from the police station near the horsetrack], while the rest drives an armored car to the beach closest to Avi's island. Land your heli on the island before the cutscene and it will remain. Just get Avi in the chopper, fly pass the target point at low altitude, then escape the approaching police helis. you should be done really quick.
HACK : driver gets the van, while the rest of the crew clear the target area already [sitting in an armored car].
Let the driver of the black van do his job and don't lean out the back of the van, if not necessary.
CONVOY : take down all attack choppers with sniper rifles or homing missiles. Leave the truck on or under the bridge. Or just take the truck to the tribune-like mountain just across the bridge [driving it a bit in 'the wrong direction']. Let Merrywhether come to you, then have your fun.
BIKES : Kurumas. When you get on the bikes, don't follow the highlighted route! It'll lead you into a roadblock. Be creative and just stay alive.

Pacific Standart - HEIST

- crowd control, JUST HOLD your RPG to keep the intimidation level at 100%.
- never alert NOOSE
- only one person takes all the money
- that person hides in bank till the first wave of cops have been blown away by the rest of the team. After a quick breath of fresh air [though you must leave the bank shortly] the money person goes back into hiding, always being prepared to shoot a rouge cop entering the bank.
- heist crew makes their way through the alleys to the bikes ASAP!! Then BLOW UP THE BIKES.

- you need the appartment in Las Lagunas Blvd and your Insurgent or Kuruma stashed in it's garage, but then you just enter the garage/appt. asap [stay calm, keep fightin, whatever, just keep tryin. . . it will work at some point] . . . and get your safe car out, for your two friends to enter.
- then pick up your fellow team member and the money from the bank - YOU STILL NEED TO PASS HIS/HER CHECKPOINTS IN THE ALLEY WAYS. . .
- . . . but still after that you should have enough time to go the supposed route via the mountain, and finish this mission without cops hassling.

[elite challenge with this heist means, running as fast as you can, giving a shit about the cuts. It's probably just being quick and staying alive]


LET'S DO IT :)



 
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Bloobug

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Adding to Prison Break Heist...once everybody in the plane and take off..DEMO don't destroy the police choppers just yet...try to make 1-3 police choppers follow you instead...choppers won't spawn more than 3...so if DEMO have 2-3 choppers following...plane should be easy to evade the police detection...
 

Steve Phatvibe

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Who's up for a run tonight??

. . . . in case someone out of my appointed heist crews reads this - please remember that I got two characters. . . and I will keep all appointments on running together with whoever is still interested, no matter if I might sth done or not besides. ;-)

I just really wanna make some [more] money today/tonight. :) Apart from some desired crew meetings, heists will be my vice for the next weeks. :)

So hit me up, ladies and gentlemen - . . . whenever you feel like, basically.

Though I'd also very much like to do a clean, straight(!) run tonight.

. . . between 7 and 9 hours should be needed. . . - after which we'll be a big step closer to 'Paradise Tuesday' aka your new Yacht or Mansion :)

Let's hear it, please :)
 

maxgregor

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Did you make a run for CMC finally? I received your invitation for a heist, but was too tipsy for serious gaming.
This weekend I was able to train on Series A and will keep on with this heist and the final one to achieve some knowledge.

I'm really craving to make a serious run for a CMC but I just don't have enough time. My playing sessions are scattered and too short. I've been checking my schedule looking for potential spots to no avail. I could be playing on the 31st from 2PM to 10PM (CET), and from there until the 9-10th weekend.
 

Steve Phatvibe

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I'm good with the first week of january. Neither too sure about 31st, nor about the 8th and 9th though.

But I'll keep this on mind :)

So far we haven't made a full stainless run ;-) . . . neither have we been trying it in just a single long session. We always split over several days. So no worries about that :)
 

maxgregor

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That went pretty well yesterday, didn't it? We suceeded in two Pacific Standard finales with pretty much all the cash. I almost die both times on that first alley but managed to run to the bikes.
I think I know the drill now. I discovered it is very important to own the apartment next to where the bikes are. One question: the guy with the money suffers attacks while waiting at the bank?